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Please respond to the each of the following questions:
1. How have you used blogs or discussion boards in your teaching or learning? What are your experiences? Which do you prefer? Why?
2. Is there a place for both tools within education? If so, in what situations would each be most effective? Is there evidence from the readings or your own experience to support your claims?
3. Which do you believe creates a stronger online community? Why?
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I have not yet used blogs in my teaching, but have used both discussion boards and blogs in my online courses. I can't say I am partial to one or the other though I think blogs are more visually appealing. For that reason, I think students in K-12 would prefer a blog.
ReplyDeleteI think both tools have a place in education. Discussion boards seem more formal than a blog. They are a good place to ask a question and get answers. Blogs may give a student more of a sense of community in their learning. One thing that I have noticed though is that people seem to censor their comments less in a blog then they would on a discussion board. Maybe this is because of the more informal atmosphere; people are more inclined to express negative opinions and/or pick fights.
As I mentioned above, I think a blog would promote a better sense of community than a discussion board because it comes across as a more relaxed atmosphere.
Hi Nicole,
DeleteI appreciate your thoughts on this. I had the opposite answer as to which format would promote a better sense of community, but I do see how this might depend upon the audience and topic at hand. I have participated in an online blogging community for several years now and have no long-term relationship with a discussion board (smile). I would imagine, however, if there were a topic I was passionate about and belonged to a group, that level of intimate sharing might promote a deeper relationship. I suppose it all depends on several factors.
Hi Nicole,
DeleteI agree with your comment that people tend to be more informal when participating in a discussion within a blog. This is my second semester in this program, and I haven't really seen online courses that use blogging as an instructional tool. Perhaps blogs have the ability to foster a stronger community because the people who choose to create the blogs are actually interested in the topic and keep themselves updated on content related discussions on their own. I also like the idea of how blogs can be public - that provides people with more insight into the topic of discussion as people from outside their normal circles can chime in.
Nicole,
DeleteI haven't used blogs in any of my classes, so it's great to get the perspective of someone who has. I find it interesting that you've found that participants self-censor less with blogs than with discussion boards. This openness makes sense with the tendency for blogs to be more personal. It could be a very good thing and lead to more honest discussion but as you pointed out, it could also lead to conflict. It's certainly something to be aware of if I ever use a blog with students, and it could be a great way to introduce and practice "netiquette" skills.
I am a blogger. So I might have a predilection. Still, blogs can be visually 'comfortable." Discussion boards seem to have a more 'institutional' look. I wonder if that makes a difference? I wonder...
ReplyDeleteI think that makes a HUGE difference between the two. Blogs are more colorful and visually pleasing to the user which attracts students more than a discussion board. I think if the discussion board tool on the LMS allowed more of the blog features students might be more interested. I think it all boils down to how you present the content and what requirements are put in place. If I had an online class and I only used blogging with my students I think they would take blogging just as serious as a discussion board. It is all in how you as the instructor design the requirements for the blog use.
DeleteI also believe it makes a huge difference. WHen I see large "chunks" of writing with no end. Sometimes its hard for me to know where to dive in. Blogs, because they are more visually appealing are typically easier for me to approach.
Delete1. How have you used blogs or discussion boards in your teaching or learning? What are your experiences? Which do you prefer? Why?
ReplyDeleteI have never used blogs, so I don’t know how they work. Reading the articles and listening to the video for this discussion is the first time I had a sense that what blogs do. I used discussion boards for two courses before this one. I did it, and learned from some other students, but it’s very time consuming for me because English is my second language. If I could chose, I would choose a blog. It seems more free form, not as narrowly focused.
2. Is there a place for both tools within education? If so, in what situations would each be most effective? Is there evidence from the readings or your own experience to support your claims?
I believe there is a place for both tools within education. I think a blog is a place for sharing personal opinions (not what the article said) and experiences; discussion boards are for classroom discussion and academically focused posting. I don’t have strong support for my claims since I don’t have much experience.
3. Which do you believe creates a stronger online community? Why?
I think blogs may create a stronger online community since they feels more free and personal. I think blogs give more personal connection than a discussion board. I do know that China has something very much like blogs called Weixin (微信). It is very popular in both China and overseas. The only issue is people spent so much time on it every day.
Hi Peggy,
DeleteI'm very interested in what a Weixin is. I'm going to have to Google that!
I can understand how you might not have been exposed to blogs if there is a different platform for knowledge share in China. I would imagine it is much the same.
I started blogging when I was staying home with my second child. It felt like a good way to maintain some of my technological skills and a healthy outreach to a community with shared interest. I love it that blogs can provide this type of outlet to those who might otherwise not be able to access information.
I hope you are able to try blogging at some point this semester and share your personal thoughts on the experience!
Hi Peggy,
DeleteI hadn't thought of blogging as more beneficial for ESL students, but i think you are right. Blogging is more free form and visual…great for ESL students I think!
I also agree that a blog is more for personal opinions then a discussion board. This idea makes a lot of sense to me.
Hi Peggy,
DeleteI had not even thought about the benefits of a blog for an ESL student. Thank you for bringing this to light in this discussion. Blogs can be as formal or informal as you would like them to be. I think many students believe that because blogs allow photos and pretty colors that they cannot be educational at the same time. It is all in how you present the materials and design the requirements of the blog.
1. How have you used blogs or discussion boards in your teaching or learning? What are your experiences? Which do you prefer? Why?
ReplyDeleteI’ve been a blogger with the Denver Post Mile High Mamas for over four years now, and while this is not a traditional educator role, I do end up writing several topics – whether it’s a DIY topic or an article on parenting, my writings are often aimed at a specific audience with the intention of sharing knowledge. These blog postings, along with those on my personal blog site often generate a discussion, and I always appreciate hearing feedback. I certainly would say that I do prefer a blog over a traditional discussion board, possibly because I am a visual learner and feel that the blogging format allows for increased opportunity in design layout, imagery, media and other helpful additions to the general topic. Discussion boards have their time and place, but certainly are not a preference of mine.
2. Is there a place for both tools within education? If so, in what situations would each be most effective? Is there evidence from the readings or your own experience to support your claims?
I do believe that both tools have a place in education. I think it’s important to consider all types of learners and make good use of all tools available in communicating the message. A discussion board might be more effective when attempting to generate a full conversation and include everyone’s thoughts and participation. A blog might be more effective in sending out a message and including creative learning techniques. From my experience, blogs don’t generate nearly as much feedback, so that would be a consideration in choosing the proper format.
3. Which do you believe creates a stronger online community? Why?
I think a discussion board has more potential in creating a stronger online community because of the increased rate of participation and sharing. The blogging format is more of a one way communication – the blogger sharing information with the reader. The discussion board is two way – both (or all) participants sharing thoughts back and forth. The relationship that grows with sharing will be innately stronger than that of simply receiving a lesson. I do believe both can generate a strong online community and have great value.
Jaime, I think it's very interesting that you're the only {student} blogger in the group that's posted so far and the only one who picked discussion board for this third question of which one creates a stronger online community. What has your experience been as far as discussions on your blog? Do you get a lot of replies or questions to your blog posts?
DeleteLen - I'm also going to pose this question to you. In your professional blogs, what type of communication do you get after you post?
I operate two blogs. One is dedicated to educational 3D (Future-Talk 3D) and receives more than 3000 visitors a month. I also operate a blog dedicated to teaching with document cameras (classroom visualizers) and visual teaching/learning (Future-Talk Viz), which receives 300 visitors a month. I also am the online community manager for a large interest group (8300+ members) on LinkedIn, running multiple discussion threads (not a blog).
DeleteAcross the board, my experience is that 95% of members visit, revisit; but the giant majority are LURKERS, and NEVER interact. They keep coming back, but RARELY interact. You are active in THIS course only because you are forced to-by community expectations and fear of grading. Otherwise, you, too would be a lurker. But that isn't good enough for those of us involved in medical, K-12, business, or post grad education. We need to ramp up the involvement. I suspect we will have more success if we continue to build and evolve a culture of sharing or create incentives for sharing. What do you think?
Len, you nailed it. I am a total blog lurker! But the main reason is because I don't feel like a blog post solicits feedback in the way a discussion board or online community does. When I'm on someone's blog, it’s their space. Their personal thoughts. Their diary. It just doesn’t seem like the right forum for me to come in and disagree or post my ideas.
DeleteNow, online communities are a different story. An online community is an open forum for like-minded members. I feel completely open to share my ideas and make recommendations. I definitely seek out online communities that help me grow professionally and will be an active participant if I feel like I’m an expert in the area or have a question I think others may have as well.
Jaime,
DeleteWould you mind sharing the link to your blog on here. I think it could be beneficial for the Mom's of this course and also just out of pure curiosity I would like to see it. :)
To get a better feel for blogs, I just checked out Len's Future Talk 3-D. For me, it was really eye-opening-- both as to what's going on in education today and as to what our illustrious leader is doing outside of this class! I also feel like I have a long way to go to get up-to-speed with today's technology, but I guess it's better late than never!
DeleteHi Jaime,
DeleteYou’re a frontier of using the blogs! I use to think that blogs are for profession speakers or writers only. I’ll pay more attention to the blogs and may try to join. I’m a visual learner too. I hope the blogging format will work for me and help me to communicate with other people more. Is that easy to get addicted?
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ReplyDelete1. How have you used blogs or discussion boards in your teaching or learning? What are your experiences? Which do you prefer? Why?
ReplyDeleteI currently teach 4th and 5th grade English Language Learners in DPS. As a teacher, I have only used blogs for showing parents, families, and teachers various student works. In that way, my use of blogs mainly becomes a medium for displaying student work - a digital gallery. I'm in the process of teaching students "netiquette" and having them respond to each other's work. In terms of being a student, I have used discussion boards more frequently compared to blogs. I don’t exactly have a preference, but I can see how using blogs can be a better choice when it comes to fostering creativity in student work. There’s also more ownership when it comes to blogging and that is something that I feel is lacking in the use of discussion boards. On the other hand, I can see how people might view blogs as requiring a lot more maintenance and upkeep compared to using discussion boards.
2. Is there a place for both tools within education? If so, in what situations would each be most effective? Is there evidence from the readings or your own experience to support your claims?
The readings overwhelmingly point to blogs being more superior to discussion boards. I think there’s definitely a place for both tools within education. Speaking from my experience as an ESL teacher, I think blogs would be more effective for English language learning students. Blogs are just so much more interactive and can provide students with an environment in which they are able to express their learning in multiple ways. It also creates a stronger community since students are able to informally comment on each other’s work and provide feedback. In my line of work, the use of discussion boards won’t fare quite as well with younger English language learners simply because they are quite word-heavy. My students are already struggling with putting their thoughts in writing – I don’t want discussion boards to limit their thoughts and expressions.
3. Which do you believe creates a stronger online community? Why?
While I ultimately think that blogs create a stronger online community, I also believe that discussion boards have the same power. Discussion boards can be used just as effectively as blogs, but the problem is that many people are unaware or don’t feel the need to use these tools. We can incorporate visuals and audio-visual attachments to discussion boards just as we can with blogs. In my opinion, I prefer the simplistic look that comes with discussion boards. Blogs, if not done correctly, can be quite distracting! Another factor that can help discussion boards with building stronger online communities is making the discussion groups smaller so that students start forming relationships with their small group discussion partners.
Hi Nora,
DeleteI have also worked with second language learners - ELL and Spanish LL’s - and loved it! I used several online tools in the classroom but not specifically discussion boards or blogs. Based on what I did use, however, I’m thinking a discussion board could provide students with the scaffolding they need to answer specific questions. The teacher could post a question, including key vocabulary, and then the students reply in a 2-3 sentence response. I could see this being very useful in Science and Social Studies when the students are learning lots of new vocabulary.
So maybe a place for these two tools in language learning could be:
discussion boards when introducing new vocabulary
blogs when practicing fluency
Nora,
DeleteI agree, blogs can be distracting if not done correctly. During my student teaching experience my fourth graders created blogs. The blog experience turned out to be extremely fun and encouraging for the students, but for the blog visitors found the student's blogs to be VERY hard to follow with content scattered everywhere. I think if the proper metrics for creating the blogs had been put in place it would have been a more successful assignment for the students. You make a good point, organization is key to a successful blog.
Amy
Hi Kelly,
DeleteThat's a really great suggestion of how I can incorporate more discussion boards for my ELLs. I initially ran into the problem of my students not being able to convey their thoughts in writing, but providing them with sentence frames when responding to a discussion can expose them to online discussion while incorporating meaningful vocabulary. Thanks!
Kelly and Nora, I love the ideas here for using both blogs and discussion boards for helping ELL students develop their skills in written language. Depending on the specific features, either format could also be way to practice spoken language with voice recordings, etc. As a librarian, I can see potential for using similar ideas to help all students develop writing fluency and netiquette in our programs.
DeleteHi Nora,
DeleteIt's so good to hear your experiences about how to let ESL students to use the tools. Since most my Chinese learning students are in the beginning level, it is very hard for them to write in Chinese. But I'll consider to use the tools for medium level students. Thank you for sharing.
Hi Nora,
DeleteI like your idea of using blogs to display student work. I think this is such a great way to display work for families especially for long distant relatives or for parents whose jobs or life circumstances prevent them from spending much time in the school. Also, I think it can be a great way to help prepare students for life by teaching them how to use technology in such a productive way!
1. How have you used blogs or discussion boards in your teaching or learning? What are your experiences? Which do you prefer? Why?
ReplyDeleteEvery course I have taken in my K-12 Instructional Technology program has involved the use of discussion boards; however, I have never blogged personally or academically. While I enjoy a good academic discussion board, I have always been wary of blogs due to the personal nature of them. I feel overly exposed sharing personal details with people who I don’t know very well and get worried that my ideas may be interpreted in a way that I had not intended, because the reader does not know me or my style of communication. For some people, this is the appeal of blogs - to escape the constraints of academic writing and express ideas in a less formal manner. Because I struggle to express myself personally through writing, I have a definite preference for discussion boards and their academic nature.
2. Is there a place for both tools within education? If so, in what situations would each be most effective? Is there evidence from the readings or your own experience to support your claims?
YES!!! If you read Richardson’s book called “Blogs, Wikis, Podcasts, and Other Powerful Web Tools for Classrooms”, it actually discusses the importance of blogging in schools and how the style of writing involved in blogs is essential for students to learn while they are still in the K-12 education system. This tool is very appropriate for more complex writing that involves a continuous narrative centralized around a particular set of topics. Complex blogging involves the use of citations and links to support the statements within the blog - an essential 21st Century skill. Discussion boards, on the other hand, serve as great places to have more succinct discussions about a single topic from which the course then moves away from and on to another topic. From my experience and based upon the readings for this module, these discussions are more academically focused and less personal than a blog, which can be more appropriate for particular course topics.
3. Which do you believe creates a stronger online community? Why?
When I think of community, I think of personal connection. The obvious choice then seems to be blogs for creating a stronger community, due to the personal nature of blogs. One of my good friends is actually quite knowledgeable about what I call ‘blog culture’ and has described the intricate network of bloggers that create a unique community focused around a central topic. When describing the bloggers she follows, she talks about them like she actually knows them and has met them in person. Having never felt that way after a discussion board, this further supports my sentiment that blogs create a stronger online community.
Mattea,
DeleteThank you for sharing information from the book "Blogs, Wikis, Podcasts, and Other Powerful Web Tools for Classrooms." I had personally not heard of this title and it sounds very interesting, I am going to check it out!
I think both the discussion board and the blog have the power to create a strong online community. It all depends on how the instructor creates the requirements. Discussion boards (as you know) now allow the student to leave audio/video responses, post photos, links, and so much more. I think you can get some of the same community feel as a blog if you stress the importance more in your online classroom setting, what do you think?
I am also someone who tends to struggle epressing my self thorough writing, and agree that discussion boards can be easier. However, blogs can be made with photos, and videos to help illustrate ideas, and I do like that aspect.
DeleteI have helped moderate discussion boards, but that is the extent to which I have used blogs or discussion boards as an instructor. As a student, my courses at UCD have been my first real introduction to effective use of both in the classroom. That being said, I am clearly no expert on either. My initial reaction to the question, “Which do you prefer?” was discussion boards because that’s what I’ve been using the most this semester. I like reading other’s posts, responding, asking questions, but I am also very cautious of the length of my post. I feel a discussion board lends itself to short and succinct comments. When considering blogs, I think of an “expert” posting his/her views on a topic and then opening it up for comments at the end. Kind of like questions after the lecture. A blog starts off much more one sided - which is not necessarily a bad thing. I can see this as giving the student blogger more of a sense of ownership of his/her ideas. This may also help bring the “one-timers” back to see if their blog has any comments.
ReplyDeleteAll of the resources provided leaned heavily in favor of blogging, so I must say, I went out and did some Googling of my own. I think there is a place for both tools in education as both tools serve a different purpose. I liked the explanation a blogger gave on nothingbutsharepoint.com saying that a discussion board is like a conversational view of an email, with each commenter “replying all.” On the other hand, a blog’s purpose isn’t to start a dialogue, but to deliver a message. Not to say you can’t solicit responses in a blog post, but in a typical blog scenario, I would say that sums it up. In education, I see a discussion board as a place to solicit questions and comments related to content being covered. Ex: Read chapter 1 and answer the following questions. It’s also a place to post homework questions or general questions about the course. A blog is more of an open ended journal and a place to reflect continuously throughout the entire semester.
As far as building an online community, I must say blogging wins. People visit discussion boards to ask questions and solicit responses. People visit blogs because they are (generally) interested in what the blogger has to say. The nature of blogs lends itself more to a community. For example, most people visiting Jaime’s Mile High Mamas are moms in the Denver area. They’ve got a bond and are connected through an online forum. Also, the very fact that there isn’t a community of “discussion boarders,” but there are millions of bloggers out there proves the fact.
Just as a connection to something you wrote: if you peruse the literature on best practice in blogging, short blogging is best. Those long-winded blogs hardly ever get readership, and are chiefly self-indulgent. Short wins. Always.
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DeleteKelly,
DeleteI'm actually going to have to disagree with your impression of bloggers as being "experts". Most of the blogs I have seen tend to be from non-experts, even some really good ones. What these blogs tend to do well, however, is incorporate outsides links and resources to convey their viewpoint on a particular topic and support their positions. I think this kind of citation can provide the expertise you are alluding to, but I question whether most bloggers are experts themselves. This is not to say that my impression is accurate either. Instead, I think it may be beneficial to think of blogs as also being 'protean'. They often take on many, many forms and can serve a variety of purposes, from delivering a message to starting a dialogue, to venting. This is also why I think blogs are a great educational tool - they can easily be adapted to serve a variety of educational purposes.
I agree that blogging doesn't always solicit responses. To me, it is more of a "private" space for the author. As you and Len mentioned, short is best. I am more likely to read something short and to the point then a long rambling about a persons' day. One thing I am noticing with blogging is that there is still a lot of scrolling involved to read through all the comments!
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ReplyDeleteI haven’t had much experience with either blogs or discussion boards, so will try to answer based on the reading. My impression is that in blogs, the writer takes on more of a leadership role, expressing longer opinions and writing with a unique voice. Also, a blog seems to be meant for a wider audience than a discussion board. My guess then is that a discussion board would foster a greater sense of community, as it is meant for a smaller, closer group. However, I’m also learning that discussion boards tend to be less personal and more academic in nature. I think they do both have a place in education, but I’m still a bit unclear as to the similarities and differences between the two, and how they can best be used, so will look forward to reading more!
ReplyDeleteMeg,
DeleteAs someone new to online tools, I think you may have a truly unique insight into the similarities and differences between discussion boards and blogs. While some differences have been outlined, I think it is also fair to say that blogs can vary a great deal, just like discussion boards can vary a great deal. It can all seem a little vague. Is it then possible for a blog and discussion board to be nearly indistinguishable? Beyond the structure, can one resemble the other? I'm curious about your thoughts as well as everyone else's thoughts on this.
Mattea,
DeleteYes! Personally, I believe that the two can resemble each other. It is entirely up to how the instructor designs the discussion board/blog requirements. It can be as academic or personal as you would like them to be so long as the requirements are clear to the students.
Meg,
You can change the settings on a blog to be private or just for select audiences. It does not have to be for all of the world to see and communicate with, unless that is the goal of the blog. The freedom of expression seems to be more apparent in a blog setting, but the blog can be academic for the user just the same.
Hi Amy and Mattea,
DeleteThanks for the additional insight. I do feel that I'm having to glean my information from the readings and this discussion, without much experience to draw upon -- but I definitely will look up some blogs (especially those mentioned) to see what some of the difference are! My impression was that blogs go out to the world, so it's interesting that they can also be limited in scope and nature. Yes, it does seem to me that blogs and discussion boards can be difficult to distinguish -- but, again, I'll look forward to checking out a few blogs and learning more!
Meg,
DeleteI'm quite new to online tools, too, especially blogs. Beyond reading one from time to time, I've never had much contact with them or how they can be used in a class. I loved what you said about writers being able to have more of a unique voice in the blog format. I think that's definitely true, and could really lead to more personal connections among classmates.
As a student in online or blended classes, I have only ever used discussion boards. Some of them have been very valuable and thought-provoking, with a great deal of student engagement. Others have been very perfunctory, with most people only posting the required amount. I've found that the best discussion boards have been in classes where students have a personal connection to the subject matter and feel strongly about it. The best example of this I have is from an introductory macroeconomics class I had. In small groups, students used online discussion boards to talk about an assigned article or current event related to what we had learned in our physical classroom each week. Some of these conversations became somewhat heated, but they were always productive. Never having experienced a blog in relation to a class, I can't say which I prefer, but I would be curious to see what it would be like.
ReplyDeleteI think there is a place for both tools in education. Discussion boards seem like they are best suited to addressing more narrow topics and talking about specific questions. Blogs are more open-ended and personal. I feel that the community-building potential of blogs mentioned in both articles could best be realized in classes that allow time for reflection. If you are trying to cram too many readings and projects into a semester, the students could easily find a blog to be a burden. The same can be said for discussion boards, though on a smaller scale. Reflecting on learning, connecting to personal experiences, expressing opinions, and responding thoughtfully to peers takes time.
I think both articles draw strong attention to the potential for blogs to create a community among online learners. With their personal nature, I can certainly see why this might be true. I think there would be less potential for simply going through the motions with a blog. The thought required to write a blog post may make the writing more meaningful and invite deeper responses from classmates.
Hi Sarah,
DeleteI like the distinction you made about the place that discussion boards have in education and the place that blogs have in education. I definitely think you are right that discussion boards are better for more narrow topics since posts are generally shorter. Also, it allows for a more authentic conversation for this reason as well. People tend to contribute shorter and more frequent posts. I know you mentioned that you haven't used blogs yet, but do you plan to use blogs in your future for teaching or learning? If so, how do you think you will plan to use them?
I have experiences with both types of medium. I typically find that there is a place for both Blogs and discussion posts. I do feel that Blogs allow students to express themselves a bit more and really open up on their learned knowledge and opinions. Discussion boards tend to be better for shorter answers where students are given parameters and told to debate an issue. I do find that with this format you get a higher number of students simply fulfilling the minimum.
ReplyDeleteI do think that when it comes to online environment that due the personalization aspects that blogs allow.
Bryan,
DeleteI hate the idea of simply fulfilling the minimum. This blog post made me realize, that I did the one thing to my "students" that I don't even like...I made a minimum posting requirement! This was definitely an eye-opener for me. :)
I have used discussion boards in my learning, but I have not used blogs for teaching or learning. However, I have used blogs for personal reasons such as to read up on a friend's trip. I definitely prefer discussion boards for my learning and for teaching. I believe that they provide a conversational richness and more engagement between students that blogs don't provide. I definitely think there is a place in education for both. Blogs would be great to tell someone's story to give insight into experiences. For example, a blog might work great if a class was doing case studies and they wanted to learn from each other's case studies. Discussion boards, on the other hand, are more beneficial for situations where students want to learn from each other in a more conversational way because they are allowed to read shorter posts and respond to those posts about a specific topic. Discussion boards allow for a stronger community because it is more of a conversation. Blogs can be more of a reading assignment for some people because there is not much back and forth conversation. This makes it hard to build community. Discussion boards allow for this back and forth conversation that we would see in a community setting.
ReplyDeleteBrittany, you said "Blogs can be more of a reading assignment for some people because there is not much back and forth conversation. This makes it hard to build community. Discussion boards allow for this back and forth conversation that we would see in a community setting." As of today, there are 41 comments on this blog post providing back and forth conversation. Can you elaborate more as to what you mean when you say that blogs do not allow back and forth conversation?
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